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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.howardchui.com/2008/06/30/ruinediphonecom/comment-page-2/#comment-13136</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 06:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Robbers comment:
&quot;@Paal - Rogers/Fido is the only GSM provider in Canada. Hence they have a monopoly on the iPhone.
Try ‘Google’ before you spout stupid and uninformed comments.&quot;

Easy gypsy, clearly you have never heard of an unlocked phone before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Robbers comment:<br />
&#8220;@Paal &#8211; Rogers/Fido is the only GSM provider in Canada. Hence they have a monopoly on the iPhone.<br />
Try ‘Google’ before you spout stupid and uninformed comments.&#8221;</p>
<p>Easy gypsy, clearly you have never heard of an unlocked phone before.</p>
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		<title>By: Rusty</title>
		<link>http://www.howardchui.com/2008/06/30/ruinediphonecom/comment-page-2/#comment-13115</link>
		<dc:creator>Rusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 19:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s another part to this story that isn&#039;t getting much press--in preparation for the iPhone launch, rogers is screwing existing customers:

I&#039;m a 10 year Rogers customer and in March of this year, I subscribed to Rogers $7 per month called &#039;Unlimited WAP Browsing&#039;. The agent explained that it may not work with my iPhone, and I told her that I&#039;d give it a try and if it didn&#039;t work, I&#039;d cancel.

It turned out that it was pretty easy to get it working, and voila, I was browsing the &#039;net on my iPhone for $7 per month. This worked well for several months until July 4, &#039;08, when I received a bill for $177.77 for &#039;On-device browsing&#039;.

I called to find out the reason for the sudden fee increase and was told that it is because I&#039;m using a non-Rogers device on the network and that if I used my Sony Ericson phone procured via Rogers, I wouldn&#039;t be charged the fees. I was also told that this is probably being done to beef up the network in preparation for the official launch of the iPhone on the Rogers network. This strikes me as immoral, if not illegal--what device I use should have no impact on what Rogers charges for transferring bits, notwithstanding the fact that any dramatic changes in fees/plans should be discussed with customers before billing them $177.77 out of nowhere.

I for one will begin looking elsewhere...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s another part to this story that isn&#8217;t getting much press&#8211;in preparation for the iPhone launch, rogers is screwing existing customers:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a 10 year Rogers customer and in March of this year, I subscribed to Rogers $7 per month called &#8216;Unlimited WAP Browsing&#8217;. The agent explained that it may not work with my iPhone, and I told her that I&#8217;d give it a try and if it didn&#8217;t work, I&#8217;d cancel.</p>
<p>It turned out that it was pretty easy to get it working, and voila, I was browsing the &#8216;net on my iPhone for $7 per month. This worked well for several months until July 4, &#8216;08, when I received a bill for $177.77 for &#8216;On-device browsing&#8217;.</p>
<p>I called to find out the reason for the sudden fee increase and was told that it is because I&#8217;m using a non-Rogers device on the network and that if I used my Sony Ericson phone procured via Rogers, I wouldn&#8217;t be charged the fees. I was also told that this is probably being done to beef up the network in preparation for the official launch of the iPhone on the Rogers network. This strikes me as immoral, if not illegal&#8211;what device I use should have no impact on what Rogers charges for transferring bits, notwithstanding the fact that any dramatic changes in fees/plans should be discussed with customers before billing them $177.77 out of nowhere.</p>
<p>I for one will begin looking elsewhere&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Yeung</title>
		<link>http://www.howardchui.com/2008/06/30/ruinediphonecom/comment-page-1/#comment-13023</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Yeung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 21:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>***TO THOSE WHO CANNOT ACCESS RUINEDIPHONE.COM***

Please note that this is not the fault of Rogers, Shaw, or any other internet service provider.

As some of you may or may not know, the site was pulled from the previous hosting provider for abuse of resources.

We have offered to James last night to host the site free of charge and have transferred the site to our servers.

The DNS changeover, known as propagation, can take up to 72 hours depending on the speed of your ISP. All our DSL customers are already able to utilize the site without issue.

If you are still unable to access the site, I advise using OpenDNS - http://www.opendns.com/ for your DNS rather than your ISP’s DNS servers.

You may also access the site via the following URL:
http://inflexion.iisnet-networks.com/~iphone/

Please direct questions to jason [dot] yeung [at] instelink [dot] com or message me.

Thank you.

- Jason</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>***TO THOSE WHO CANNOT ACCESS RUINEDIPHONE.COM***</p>
<p>Please note that this is not the fault of Rogers, Shaw, or any other internet service provider.</p>
<p>As some of you may or may not know, the site was pulled from the previous hosting provider for abuse of resources.</p>
<p>We have offered to James last night to host the site free of charge and have transferred the site to our servers.</p>
<p>The DNS changeover, known as propagation, can take up to 72 hours depending on the speed of your ISP. All our DSL customers are already able to utilize the site without issue.</p>
<p>If you are still unable to access the site, I advise using OpenDNS &#8211; <a href="http://www.opendns.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.opendns.com/</a> for your DNS rather than your ISP’s DNS servers.</p>
<p>You may also access the site via the following URL:<br />
<a href="http://inflexion.iisnet-networks.com/~iphone/" rel="nofollow">http://inflexion.iisnet-networks.com/~iphone/</a></p>
<p>Please direct questions to jason [dot] yeung [at] instelink [dot] com or message me.</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
<p>- Jason</p>
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		<title>By: Yvon Pelletier</title>
		<link>http://www.howardchui.com/2008/06/30/ruinediphonecom/comment-page-1/#comment-13021</link>
		<dc:creator>Yvon Pelletier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Same whole story! We are getting riped-off! This with the absolution of the Canadian government. It is high time that the telecom companies be audited by the government!! They would find a lot of crummy stories about their services... You can hear complaints everywhere!!! Yuk!!!!Makes me want to p......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Same whole story! We are getting riped-off! This with the absolution of the Canadian government. It is high time that the telecom companies be audited by the government!! They would find a lot of crummy stories about their services&#8230; You can hear complaints everywhere!!! Yuk!!!!Makes me want to p&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Turner</title>
		<link>http://www.howardchui.com/2008/06/30/ruinediphonecom/comment-page-1/#comment-13016</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 18:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t access through Sympatico webservers at 2008/07/02 1440 hrs probably because they have blocked or removed the ip address from their domain name servers just as Rogers has.  Clearly, they are in collusion with Rogers.  This is smelling like criminal conspiracy.  A complaint to CRTC would be in order.  A complaint to Apple would also help.  They need to know how Rogers is screwing their Iphone business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t access through Sympatico webservers at 2008/07/02 1440 hrs probably because they have blocked or removed the ip address from their domain name servers just as Rogers has.  Clearly, they are in collusion with Rogers.  This is smelling like criminal conspiracy.  A complaint to CRTC would be in order.  A complaint to Apple would also help.  They need to know how Rogers is screwing their Iphone business.</p>
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		<title>By: aou</title>
		<link>http://www.howardchui.com/2008/06/30/ruinediphonecom/comment-page-1/#comment-13011</link>
		<dc:creator>aou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 17:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can confirm that web site is not available via Rogers, but fully accessible via DSL provider 

http://aou.livejournal.com/213006.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can confirm that web site is not available via Rogers, but fully accessible via DSL provider </p>
<p><a href="http://aou.livejournal.com/213006.html" rel="nofollow">http://aou.livejournal.com/213006.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Barry Kernerman</title>
		<link>http://www.howardchui.com/2008/06/30/ruinediphonecom/comment-page-1/#comment-13005</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry Kernerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 13:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rogers is still keeping up its policy of ripping off its customers.

Its got the sole marketing rights for the iPhone, and as is its usual practise, is taking advantage of that fact by gouging its customers as much as possible with far higher monthly fees user than one pays in the US market - and probably everywhere else as well.

Rogers has been grossly overcharging Canadians for years now in every segment of their operations, so it&#039;s not surprising that they are doing it once again with the Apple iPhone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rogers is still keeping up its policy of ripping off its customers.</p>
<p>Its got the sole marketing rights for the iPhone, and as is its usual practise, is taking advantage of that fact by gouging its customers as much as possible with far higher monthly fees user than one pays in the US market &#8211; and probably everywhere else as well.</p>
<p>Rogers has been grossly overcharging Canadians for years now in every segment of their operations, so it&#8217;s not surprising that they are doing it once again with the Apple iPhone.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Yeung</title>
		<link>http://www.howardchui.com/2008/06/30/ruinediphonecom/comment-page-1/#comment-12992</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Yeung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 06:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>***TO THOSE WHO CANNOT ACCESS RUINEDIPHONE.COM***

Please note that this is not the fault of Rogers, Shaw, or any other internet service provider.

As some of you may or may not know, the site was pulled from the previous hosting provider for abuse of resources.

We have offered to James last night to host the site free of charge and have transferred the site to our servers.

The DNS changeover, known as propagation, can take up to 72 hours depending on the speed of your ISP. All our DSL customers are already able to utilize the site without issue.

If you are still unable to access the site, I advise using OpenDNS - http://www.opendns.com/ for your DNS rather than your ISP&#039;s DNS servers.

You may also access the site via the following URL:
http://inflexion.iisnet-networks.com/~iphone/

Please direct questions to jason [dot] yeung [at] instelink [dot] com or message me.

Thank you.

- Jason</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>***TO THOSE WHO CANNOT ACCESS RUINEDIPHONE.COM***</p>
<p>Please note that this is not the fault of Rogers, Shaw, or any other internet service provider.</p>
<p>As some of you may or may not know, the site was pulled from the previous hosting provider for abuse of resources.</p>
<p>We have offered to James last night to host the site free of charge and have transferred the site to our servers.</p>
<p>The DNS changeover, known as propagation, can take up to 72 hours depending on the speed of your ISP. All our DSL customers are already able to utilize the site without issue.</p>
<p>If you are still unable to access the site, I advise using OpenDNS &#8211; <a href="http://www.opendns.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.opendns.com/</a> for your DNS rather than your ISP&#8217;s DNS servers.</p>
<p>You may also access the site via the following URL:<br />
<a href="http://inflexion.iisnet-networks.com/~iphone/" rel="nofollow">http://inflexion.iisnet-networks.com/~iphone/</a></p>
<p>Please direct questions to jason [dot] yeung [at] instelink [dot] com or message me.</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
<p>- Jason</p>
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		<title>By: live_strong</title>
		<link>http://www.howardchui.com/2008/06/30/ruinediphonecom/comment-page-1/#comment-12985</link>
		<dc:creator>live_strong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 03:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to the ruinediphone.com blog...

&lt;I&gt;I got like 200 e-mails about this subject. I don’t think that Rogers is blocking our website. The fact that I’ve changed the DNS of the domain name is probably the true reason. The DNS need to propagate in all the servers around the world. It could take as long as 48 hours for this task to be done. Thank you for your patience and please, don’t start a petition against Rogers for this (haha).&lt;/I&gt;

The site is back up and running (it must have been all the traffic generated from here that caused the crash :) ) please head over and sign to petition to show your support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to the ruinediphone.com blog&#8230;</p>
<p><i>I got like 200 e-mails about this subject. I don’t think that Rogers is blocking our website. The fact that I’ve changed the DNS of the domain name is probably the true reason. The DNS need to propagate in all the servers around the world. It could take as long as 48 hours for this task to be done. Thank you for your patience and please, don’t start a petition against Rogers for this (haha).</i></p>
<p>The site is back up and running (it must have been all the traffic generated from here that caused the crash <img src='http://www.howardchui.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  ) please head over and sign to petition to show your support.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Tagouri</title>
		<link>http://www.howardchui.com/2008/06/30/ruinediphonecom/comment-page-1/#comment-12983</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Tagouri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 03:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I truly believe that this is a tribute to the power of the people that Rogers was so afraid of this site that they resorted to such a low and dirty trick as to block access to the site. However what I don&#039;t understand is how come they got the idiots at Bell to follow suit and block access as well. I tried it through the following link and it works: http://inflexion.iisnet-networks.com/~iphone/index.php 
I really can&#039;t wait until we are able to stick it to Rogers. Unfortunately they are the only GSM player in the country which in itself is pathetic. Thank you CRTC for your enlightened decision of allowing the sale of Fido to the greedy bastards at Rogers. Happy Canada day everyone</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I truly believe that this is a tribute to the power of the people that Rogers was so afraid of this site that they resorted to such a low and dirty trick as to block access to the site. However what I don&#8217;t understand is how come they got the idiots at Bell to follow suit and block access as well. I tried it through the following link and it works: <a href="http://inflexion.iisnet-networks.com/~iphone/index.php" rel="nofollow">http://inflexion.iisnet-networks.com/~iphone/index.php</a><br />
I really can&#8217;t wait until we are able to stick it to Rogers. Unfortunately they are the only GSM player in the country which in itself is pathetic. Thank you CRTC for your enlightened decision of allowing the sale of Fido to the greedy bastards at Rogers. Happy Canada day everyone</p>
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